Subject: | Delayed Engagement After Sitting With Engine Off |
Brand: |
Model: |
Model Year: |
VIN: |
Engine: |
Transmission: | ||
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from |
to |
from |
to | ||||
Cadillac |
Escalade |
2015 |
2016 |
SOP |
10/08/2015 |
8L90 |
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Escalade ESV |
8L90 |
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ATS |
11/23/2015 |
8L45 or 8L90 |
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CTS |
8L45 or 8L90 |
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Chevrolet |
Camaro |
11/23/2015 |
8L90 |
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9/28/2015 |
3.6L (LGX) |
8L45 |
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11/09/2015 |
2.0L (LTG) |
8L45 |
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Corvette |
10/27/2015 |
8L90 |
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Silverado |
10/12/2015 |
8L90 |
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GMC |
Sierra |
10/12/2015 |
8L90 |
||||
Yukon |
10/08/2015 |
8L90 |
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Yukon XL |
8L90 |
Involved Region or Country |
North America and N.A. Export Regions |
Condition |
Some customers may comment on a condition of delayed engagement when the transmission is shifted from Park to Reverse or Park to Drive after the vehicle has been sitting with the engine off. This condition may typically occur after several hours or more commonly overnight. Customers may describe this condition as:
Operation will be normal for the subsequent engagements throughout the day and the condition will not occur until the vehicle sits again with the engine off for several hours or overnight. |
Cause |
This condition may be caused by the torque converter draining the transmission fluid back into the transmission pan. |
If the customer describes the condition as a long engagement with a slip/soft engagement feel and/or the vehicle not wanting to move, the condition should be considered drain back and the following procedure should be followed.
If the customer describes the condition as a long engagement time with a harsh or bump engagement feel when shifting the vehicle from park to drive or reverse. Using GDS and monitor engine RPM and transmission Input Speed Sensor (ISS) prior to starting the engine. Start the engine with the engine in park. ISS should equal engine RPM in 3 seconds or less. If ISS takes more than 3 seconds to equal engine RPM than follow the procedure for replacing the stator shaft support. If the ISS is equal to engine RPM in 3 seconds or less shift the vehicle from park to drive or reverse leaving the service brake applied. ISS should drop to zero “0’ within 2 seconds, this is clutch engagement time. Recording a GDS session log can be useful in diagnosing this condition.
For 2015 MY vehicles Contact GM TAC for review and additional instructions. Prior to contacting TAC record a GDS2 Session log of the delayed engagement.
Note: This procedure will allow the pressures to adapt and improve the engagement time to reverse.
For 2016 MY vehicle attempt to learn the C5 Clutch using the following procedure:
Note: Do NOT apply the accelerator pedal.
If the learn procedure does not correct the condition contact GM TAC for review and additional instructions. Prior to contacting TAC record a GDS2 Session log of the delayed engagement.
Install a new stator shaft support assembly that includes an additional check ball. Follow the instructions below to replace the stator shaft support assembly.
Note: The fluid pan gasket is reusable. Inspect the gasket to determine if it may be reused. If the gasket is stuck to the case or pan, it should be replaced.
Note: The driven sprocket locking tab is located on the back of the sprocket. Rotate the sprocket as shown and simultaneously pull back and up on the tab to release the retainer.
Note: There are 2 different front cover configurations. Early design front covers have 3 threaded holes for service, late design front covers have 2 threaded holes.
(A) | Old stator support asm |
(B) | New stator support asm |
Note: The new stator shaft support assembly has a second check ball (1) added (see illustrations).
Caution: Size the converter fluid seal ring for at least 5 minutes after installation to obtain proper seal ring size. Failure to do so may cause internal transmission leaks and transmission damage.
Note: Use the large taper side of DT-50912-1 Seal Sizer for initial seal sizing, then flip the tool over for final sizing. The DT-50912-1 seal sizer works for both the 8L90 and 8L45.
Note: Align the bolt hole indicated by the arrow with the arrow that is cast into the case and push down to seat.
(A) | Old cover - 8L90 Only |
(B) | New cover - 8L90 Only |
Note: The casting void has been eliminated from the underside of the cover for the 8L90 only (see illustration). The 8L45 is not required.
Note: Ensure the drive link assembly is not pinched by the front cover and moves freely on the drive sprocket.
Note: Ensure the driven sprocket locking tab is in the unlocked position before installing the sprocket. The driven sprocket locking tab is located on the back of the sprocket and faces the pump.
Description |
Part Number |
Qty |
Trans Model |
Component Number in Disassembled Views |
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GASKET-A/TRNS FLUID PAN |
24260071 |
1 (if required) |
8L45/8L90 |
48 |
BOLT/SCREW-A/TRNS FLUID BFL |
11548404 |
2 |
8L45/8L90 |
12 |
BOLT/SCREW-A/TRNS CASE FRT CVR |
11548201 |
11 |
8L45/8L90 |
3 |
SEAL-A/TRNS CASE FRT CVR |
24266366 |
1 (if required) |
8L90 |
5 |
SEAL-A/TRNS CASE FRT CVR |
24251906 |
1 (if required) |
8L45 |
5 |
GASKET-A/TRNS FRT SUPT CVR |
24272658 |
1 |
8L90 |
19 |
GASKET-A/TRNS FRT SUPT CVR |
24272883 |
1 |
8L45 |
19 |
WASHER-DRV SPKT THR (FRONT) |
24259119 |
1 (if required) |
8L45/8L90 |
6 |
WASHER-DRV SPKT THR (REAR) |
24259427 |
1 (if required) |
8L45/8L90 |
8 |
SEAL-TURB SHF (O RING) |
24261849 (Part of 24271697 kit) |
1 |
8L90 |
500 |
SEAL-TURB SHF (O RING) |
24261848 (Part of 24277071 kit) |
1 |
8L45 |
500 |
SUPPORT ASM-STATOR SHF |
24277234 |
1 |
8L90 |
14 |
SUPPORT ASM-STATOR SHF |
24277230 |
1 |
8L45 |
14 |
COVER-A/TRNS CASE FRT |
24277964 |
1 (if required) |
8L90 |
4 |
SEAL-T/CV FLUID |
24259216 |
1 |
8L45/8L90 |
18 |
RING-1-3-5-6-7 CLU FLUID SEAL |
24266593 |
2 |
8L90 |
15 |
RING-1-3-5-6-7 CLU FLUID SEAL |
24266594 |
2 |
8L45 |
15 |
SEAL ASM-T/CV FLUID |
24266709 |
1 |
8L45/8L90 |
2 |
FLUID, A/TRANS (DEXRON HP ATF) (1 QUART) |
19300536-US 19300537-CA |
As Required |
8L45/8L90 |
Article ID: 1290
Created: July 3, 2016
Last Updated: July 3, 2016
Online URL: https://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/tech/knowledgebase/article/2015-2016-corvette-service-bulletin-16-na-014-delayed-engagement-after-sitting-with-engine-off-1290.html